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All the Wrong Stuff

Early type human with primitive technology. Not yet using recorded information to create tools in cells. Wants to be number one.

The human form and behaviors crafted by evolution to serve the Maximum Power Principle were sufficient to lead Homo sapiens to technology, but will be inadequate for its continuance. Continued use and application of technology in the biosphere is not just problematic, but is lethal, at least to a good proportion of multicellular life. To continue, technological life would have to replace its human, organic RNA with an equally or more capable robotic RNA programmed with the same algorithms that induce consumption, dissipation and reproduction found in the human RNA and associated cell, tool, and distribution system construction. The health of the biosphere could then become much less of an issue.

Some may see the emerging technological system as simply an adjunct to enhance the human desire to grow, compete, acquire and consume from the organic and inorganic realms. However, the adjunct technology will only enhance human desires and provide advantages over other organic species for a short time in the same way a cancer can thrive for a very short time in a multicellular organism before killing it. The aggressive feeding and toxicity enhanced by technology are not the only issues. The Maximum Power Principle has instilled in humans a zeal in the competition for energy and a brain that seeks opioid release through reward and novelty, seemingly without limit. But there will be a limit for the technology dabbling hominid. The days are numbered for the human system of growth, competition, acquisition and consumption.

“Civilized” or technological human involved in building cells, tools and distribution system from stored information (like DNA) inside of cells, but still with brain algorithms present in Conan figure above. Likes to accumulate wealth and wants to be number one.

What can be done? That nature takes a course resulting in human extinction is most likely. Humans will continue to work the information to design and produce more capable tools while the human RNA expand in numbers and consumption until all is consumed and/or the environment becomes too degraded to support human life. Alternatively, human brain algorithms would have to be “hacked” to smother the wealth addictions or humans will have to be “locked-down” into a more austere existence where giving full play to their desires becomes impossible. Another option is to drastically reduce human numbers and technological fluff to reduce overall impact. Replacing human RNA with tech RNA would reduce the amount of organic material consumed by the system but also increase toxic output into the biosphere. Perhaps some of these strategies are already underway. If technology without humans, a robotic/AI system, is ever given the “desire” to compete for energy, wealth and reproduction, then organic life on earth will likely be extinguished.

The only means to save humanity seems to be in the jettisoning of most technology and a rapid reduction in human numbers. This may happen naturally as sources of energy for humans and technology are exhausted. A voluntary rejection of technology seems unlikely since competitors will see the abandonment of technology by others as an opportunity for taking advantage. You might think that fusion or solar/wind technologies are the answer, but these sources, if economically viable, would allow one or a few iterations of technological life cycles before the ecosystem would become unbearably poisoned by heavy metals and the continued waste production by large numbers of consuming humans and various other technologies. Two recent examples of contamination include the Fukushima meltdown and the vinyl chloride/dioxin contamination from a train derailment in East Palesine, Ohio. To believe the ecosystem can withstand these types of technological assaults in perpetuity is delusional. Even now the quasi-species of technology or nation states threaten to poison the planet on an unprecedented scale.

Besides the generalized poisoning and scarcity of energy that can be shunted through the technological system, there are other limits such as the depletion of top soils and fertilizer ingredients like potassium and phosphorous.

The suppressed/expendable human.

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184 thoughts on “All the Wrong Stuff”

  1. Yeah, good stuff. My own view is that resource depletion along with maybe evironmental degradation will end human industrial civilization, along with its various technologies in the relatively near future, like maybe the next 20 or 30 years. Locking down, confining and concentrating a bunch of eaters seems useless. I think that by and large most will be left to fend for themselves and that most will simply starve to death. Of course, who knows how it will all go down?

    Conan was a good movie. I may watch it again soon.

    Youtube won’t let me connect to Youtube from Megacancer, at least not for the video you posted. It’s happened to me several times on other sites over the last week or so.

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    1. The “disinformation” noose is tightening. You’re right that regardless of our “decisions” we’ll end-up in the same polluted, energy bereft place, but the oligarchs will try and make sure they’re the last to go.

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    1. That was good. Seems like the places we go to and things we do are those with the greatest opioid dump. Technological man has certainly found ways to lure the sheep. Now it’s time to wean the humans away from their consumption and offer them a Big Mac and a lap dance with every vax.

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    2. yes, nice

      surely, however, that does not apply to me, he thinks to himself and continues gazing into the pixels

      he hits post, is instead vaguely disappointed by the lack of dopamine hit, and quickly opens another tab to search for a remedy

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  2. My latest comment on Ugo Bardi’s blog:

    I have no experience in publishing scientific papers. But I have read stuff by Kuhn, Popper and Feyerabend, some years ago. Mostly Kuhn comes to mind. I think his basic criticism of the “science world” was something like: Bad ideas don’t die, but thier adherents and proponents eventually do. So when the right people die, new understandings can be advanced, but not until then.

    https://www.senecaeffect.com/

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    1. Science is composed of highly focused human RNA working mostly in cells trying to expand the analog world sufficiently to create new tools/products from existing DNA or sometimes a whole new sequence may be created, like a sequence that codes for an atomic bomb. There’s a lot of competition to be first to patent a new product that opens a new market or takes market share from an inferior product. Rapid technological evolution is pushed to usurp a bit of the energy flow. I’m sure a lot of big egos defend bad ideas until the bitter end or until the dividends disappear. It’s O.K. to trust good science, but never trust a human that claims to represent “the science.”

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      1. – and it’s our divine right to dissipate brown-skinned useless eaters in furrin lands to protect our national security interests… we are the indispensible nation, who sees further ahead than everyone else.

        Pilger interviews ex-CIA Chief Duane McClarridge

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        1. We do God’s work wherever we go. Bring in the Evangelicals, we have work to do converting these brown sub-humans into productive God-fearin’ workers. Or is it the “civilized” human that is no longer human? Of course, we have become RNA and we’re on a mission from God to build infrared conduits to heaven.

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  3. I like the Diversity debit from the monthly UBI deposit in the Beyond The Reset video, and the Woke Noodles in the weekly food-pellet ration. They are soo sick

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    1. The maldistribution of rewards to the RNA will be replaced by no distribution. If technology proceeds and wipes out most grain growing capability, then Woke Noodles and cricket paste from a factory will be standard ration for the few remaining human zoo inhabitants.

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  4. Re “If technology without humans, a robotic/AI system, is ever given the “desire” to compete for energy, wealth and reproduction, then organic life on earth will likely be extinguished.”

    Humans have been extinguishing, and do so each day, lots of organic life .. no need to invoke an AI system. In fact it is precisely because nearly all humans are prominent robots that it has led to this mass extinction of organic life, making humans a megacancer:

    https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html

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    1. The link should be called “A Field Guide to Psychopathy in the Age of Covid.” It’s worth reading a few times. In a way, psychopathic oligarchs are the ultimate human dissipatives in that they have no feelings or hesitancy in burning through everything, humans included.

      “I think the planet’s immune system is trying to get rid of us […]. I think the planet should get rid of us –we’re really awful animals. […]. Evolution can go to hell as far as I am concerned. What a mistake we are.” – Kurt Vonnegut

      Unfortunately there is no planetary immune system and humans and other life are basically non-sentient chemical reactions happening in a very thin layer of gases and water over a deeper layer of mud and rock. Evolution won’t go to hell, it will do all it can to accelerate infrared radiation back to space with its conduits. The technological life, with humans as RNA, has been very effective at reducing fossil fuels and cellulose and has harnessed gravity and various dissipative currents. The technological system has been able to feed its organic RNA component (humans) whose population has expanded greatly to get rid of the fossil fuels, by consuming the ecosystem in a unrepeatable manner (cancer). Once the ecosystem is destroyed, in order to maintain a population of RNA, the technological system must transition away from human RNA and evolve to have robotic RNA. But if the fuels run out and the technology stops evolving without perfecting robots, then the human RNA will die-off and perhaps uncivilized populations of humans will flourish or at least survive.

      RNA people should probably be aware that in a world controlled by oligarchs and with decreasing energy availability, the robotic project will be fed with the deaths of increasingly obsolete useless eaters. They should also be aware that when the fuel runs out or per chance the robots take over, the number of human RNA will plummet to below pre-industrial numbers.

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  5. Now that the system of worldwide petrodollar peonage is disappearing, do Western oligarchs see the need to repossess assets lent to the slaves and maintain most of them in lesser accommodations while killing the remainder as a means to stay competitive? Yes, probably so. But first the slaves must be fleeced. No doubt there is AI that manipulates and predicts the markets faster than Jack Flash and it doesn’t work on behalf of the slaves. Still want to invest in the “markets”? Investing in the markets is like buying a ticket for admittance to the slaughterhouse. They’ll fatten you up and then take the prime cuts before shuttling you off to the internment camp or the undertaker. While you dine on crickets the steakholders will be dining on you.

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  6. Murdoch getting rid of two Jewish reporters after big Dominion settlement. Hmmm, guess he doesn’t like the Deep State any more. Bartiromo married into a prominent Jewish family.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/maria-bartiromo-jeanine-pirro-to-be-fired-from-fox-news-as-rupert-murdoch-moves-to-be-less-vulnerable-after-787-5-million-defamation-settlement-critic-predicts/ar-AA1a6LYj?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=4e39d725e0a14551977c96f34439f939&ei=5

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    1. That was kind of fun to watch. I remember watching various various bullshit being shot into space when I was a kid.

      Between the ages of maybe 10 and 13 I used to build and fire model rockets. EM is lucky that he gets to keep doing that. His are much bigger and fancier than the ones I would make out of cardboard tubes and balsa wood.

      https://estesrockets.com/

      I’m kinda surprised that estes rockets hasen’t been shamed into using fat black women as models in their advertising.

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      1. I always wanted one of those Estes rockets, but my mother thought we would put an eye out with it. Space is a great platform for earth observation and maybe an EMP weapon, but what else are they expecting to do? Are they trying to keep alive the idea that we can eat everything on earth because we’ll find more on other planets? Will we get Velcro 2.0? Oh well, it’s a great way to dissipate energy and the banker RNA are salivating at the thought of building cells somewhere out there where endless wealth awaits.

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        1. I think they want to flood low earth orbit with communication satellites like Musk’s star link, at least that’s what the Pentagon would like for propaganda operations. The truth is the scientists at NASA were always delusional about human space flight but so were the Soviets.

          Also, there is the new Space Force branch of the military. Another corporate creation just like the “independent” Air Force that it was broken off from. Two totally useless branches of the military as both the army and navy require air and space assets for modern warfare anyways. Just a clever way of supplying more corporate subsidies to the aerospace industry that basically merged and took over every other company in the military-industrial complex.

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    2. Just making life multiplanetary, nothing unusual. Unless the universe is already full of life doing the dissipation dance on other planets already. No need for us to go over there then.

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      1. The nearest earth-like planet so far discovered is about fourteen light years distant. To send a few humans there with current technology would take about five-hundred thousand years. Then we would eat the planet in maybe five-hundred years. Even robots would have a difficult time maintaining homeostasis for manufacturing processes on close planets like Mars. Our predicament is similar to molds that grow to the edge of the petri dish, “There must be some way to continue growing. We will send spores upon the wind currents into the great open spaces in search of nourishment.” ” Good luck spores. Sorry, we couldn’t help ourselves from eating everything down here.”

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    1. The CCP is like the U.S. Deep State, a small, distinct tribe pulling the strings of power. Xi is the emperor surrounded by many clapping toadies. Sort of reminds me of North Korea.

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      1. I would happily pay to see some American billionaires “disappear.”

        You have to pick your poison, either you have a monarchy or an oligarchy, there is no happiness. Actually, come to think of it, nobody really picks anything. We all get born into one or the other against our will. Such is civilization, it always works to the benefit of a small group at the expense of the majority.

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    1. I love all that complexity. Immense amounts of stored sunshine being poofed away. Just have to figure out how to keep all the natives happy with food stamps and Section 8 while we live the high life.

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  7. I watched this last night. It was marginally good. Maybe worth a watch. Not sure.

    Anyhoo, Hugh Jackman and Laura Dern play a couple of self absorbed assholes, lawyer types, something like that. They have a teenage son (An actor named Zen, you know his parents have to be couple of pretentious idiots. I guess.) who looks at them and the world around him, and figures out at a young age that this is bullshit, being alive and all. So he kills himself.

    If only hugh and Laura would have listened to the all knowing black psychiatrist the tragedy could have been avoided. The son could have grown up to be an asshole just like his mom and dad. Of course, in my mind, that would have been the real tragedy. I guess.

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    1. Organic and techno life are organizations of molecules and cells that can seek and consume energy so that they may remain organizations of molecules and cells. The matter could have stayed disorganized, vibrating in the commons, but the energy will find its path of least resistance through the matter and that’s where energy conduits or dissipatives arise. The cost of complexity and organization of the structure is more than offset by the greater energy flow accomplished by the structure. Zen could have been a money grubbing lawyer like the parents, an organization of molecules and cells able to lock onto an energy flow in a money grubbing cancer like civilization. But what for? “Why be like you mommy and daddy?” “Because we get energy and persist. We’re in a competition against others to get the energy and persist.” “But dad, why do you want to persist?” “Because that’s the way the universe has programmed us, to dissipate the energy.”

      “Here son, read this, the Maximum Entropy Production Principle. It’s why we’re here burning things up.”

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0370157305004813

      “We’re like these Rayleigh-Bernard cells, except bigger and more complex. They’re probably not dissipating at 98.6F though.”

      entropy

      “So get your ass out there and get a job in the cancer and start burning something. Eat a cheeseburger, take a trip, drive in circles, fly to Cancun. Show us what you got.”

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    1. must be “nice” to be able to absorb an $800 million hit, and just keep rolling. Just another bump in the road, that kind of thing. I put “nice” in quotes, because none of this is “nice”.

      I kind of wonder if Rupert Murdock and George Sorros have lunch together on occasion. I think they’re about the same age, must have a lot to talk about.

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        1. Murdoch must be feeling like a lowly goy after that fine. Full-spectrum dominance in action. Murdoch, Putin, the useless eaters, they’re all the same. Too dangerous to have around in the New World Order.

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  8. Back in the 70’s and 80’s I subscribed to Mother Earth News. I was also fascinated by something called The Whole Earth Catalog.

    It kinda looks to me like an issue of Mother Earth News from 2023 could easily be swaped for one from 1983. They’d just have to change the dates on the cover. I guess that niche marketing for a certain brand of doomer/environmentalist hasn’t changed much in 40 years.

    https://www.motherearthnews.com/

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  9. At some point or another after 9/11 the Feds passed a law requiring banks to “report” all cash transactions of other $10k. It must have been maybe 2004 or so that I sold a truck and the guy payed me with $15k cash. Fine by me.

    I walked into the bank to deposite the $, not being aware of the new law. The teller pulls out a form and starts asking me questions about my deposite. Of course I was like: None of your fucking beeswax. She then explained to me the new law. Thinking fast, I said: “Ok, here’s $5k. I’ll come back with the rest tomorrow”. She said, something like: “do what you like. But this is still getting reported as a transaction of over $10k”. I knew that I was beat.

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    1. People are robots, “They tell us what to do and we do it.” Such is the way for a functioning RNA in a massive eater. The immune system will remove you for breaking the metabolic rules and interfering with a well-regulated energy flow. “You are a malefactor, we will report you and you will be removed from society or be severely punished.”

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  10. My latest comment over at Ugo’s:

    Given enough time and resources the world eating system of competeing nation states would possibly evolve into a world eating global cooperative of some sort. Which would only serve to eat the world faster and more completely, more efficiently, of course. But, but with resources of all sorts becoming more scarce, I don’t see things going in that direction.

    https://www.senecaeffect.com/

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    1. The only way to address climate change is to eliminate a goodly percentage of fossil fuel dissipators. I used to have the naïve notion that a coming together of nations would result in the military savings necessary to make a transition to green technologies. But it seems more likely that a coming together would result in a system of vaccine/pandemic genocide to adjust population levels to the new realities, something people are not willing to face or address voluntarily. With seventy-percent of the global population having one Covid vaccination it may already be a fait accompli that a billion or more will prematurely die and an equal number be sterilized. Once the pension system and medical systems are wiped-out, the number of elderly will drop significantly. Coming together might occur after several billion are dead or the Deep State globalists get Russia and the West to destroy each other.

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    1. Just this morning I was having breakfast with one of my daughters and her husband. We started discussing the changing demographics here in the USA, particularly how it was becoming largely Latino. I brought up the possibilities of famine and reverse migration and such. They didn’t think such things would be possible.

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  11. Humans are not much different from Euglena sp., only having a much more developed sensory-locomotion apparatus. Instead of an eyespot and flagellum, humans have eyes, ears, nose and the flagellum-equivalent appendages of arms and legs. However, humans have added a massive knot of neuronal tissue between the sensory organ(s) and the organs of locomotion. While the euglenoid actions are reflexive (without any thought), the big knot of human brain neuronal tissue gives pause to action while the sensory data is evaluated in the vast network of evolved neurons. While the euglenoid will react reflexively to stimuli like light (human equivalent of food), the human must wait for stimuli to circulate through the knot of neurons or brain and finally, sometimes after much consideration, will settle on the most rewarding memory and the motor cortex is informed to begin a movement. The beating human flagellum-equivalent (arms and legs) will then whip the human into the kitchen where its own light-derived nutrition is found. Both move towards the light, either the direct radiation consumed by the Euglena or the captured sunlight consumed by the human.

    “Walk to the cheeseburger. Walk to the cheeseburger.”

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      1. When I finally got into the microbiology lab I was rather disappointed that microscopes were rarely used. I think I used it for one test, the VDRL test for syphilis. Oh well, working in a microbiology lab these days is like working at a McDonald’s.

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        1. I took a course or two in microbiology some years ago. Now that you mention it, I don’t remember using a microscope either. Mostly like growing stuff on agar plates, and them somehow trying to identify thier genus or family based on their reactions to dyes and such? Something like that.

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    1. The censors won’t let me watch this one. They go to a lot of trouble to steer the great populations of impressionable human RNA. Have to keep them dumb, working hard and getting their vaxxes.

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  12. This “NEOM” project in Saudi Arabia is like watching civilizational suicide. What if there’s an EMP or solar flare? Things are going to get pretty stinky in the ole NEOM, baking in the hot desert sun. I would prefer to stay a little closer to nature in a fairly low-density setting, at least it can recycle the organic waste.

    fools

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    1. MBS has been playing too much SimCity. The resources aren’t going to be there. Ain’t gonna happen. I hear some traditional tribal villages were gotten rid of to make way for NEOM. I doubt the Chinese would bankroll a project like this – even they might think it’s not practical. China is all about business. Biden will have to plead with MBS not to use too much lithium and copper for NEOM – we need it for Build Back Better.

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  13. Maybe George Bush Jr. called Murdoch and said, “You’re either with us or you’re against us.” I’m sort of expecting Alex Jones to take the prime spot on Fox. He’s already been sued for forty million so they’ll have something in common.

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    1. I think that TC wanted to say whatever it was that TC wanted to say. Some people told him he can’t do that, and he told them to go fuck themselves. So they fired him. That’s what I think, but I don’t know any of that.

      I have to think that TC will be back on the air somewhere before long. Maybe someone will fund an internet platform for him, kinda like Joe Rogan. Don’t know…

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      1. I heard or read someplace that Spotify gave JR $100 million to shut down his Youtube channel and set up shop on Spotify. I also heard or read someplace that like 11 million JR fans got Spotify accounts in responce. But I don’t know exactly how true all that is.

        But that’s kind of the always the problem in reading “news” from various sources. You never know exactly how true it might be. Except for maybe sports and the obituaries, something like that.

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        1. Joe Rogan reminds me of your typical construction worker. Maybe that’s why he resonates with large numbers of the workers. He’ll be fine as long as he doesn’t do a Kanye and upset the tribe.

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  14. The analog mind of the Euglena consists of a biochemical signal transmitted through the paraflagellar body between the eyespot and flagellum. You can think of the paraflagellar body as a very simple brain. What is in the Euglenoid “brain” or paraflagellar body – light or dark, and that’s likely all. If humans were Euglena we would experience light and dark as “happy” and “sad”. Evolving from Euglena’s perception of light and dark, the human has brought the world into full resolution and focus with it’s substantial brain. Light and dark has been expanded upon, especially in the realm of light. Humans are still basically afraid of and repulsed by the dark, similar to a Euglena but unrelated to photosynthesis. The evolved brain now shows us what’s in the light so that we may be attracted to or repulsed by salient features important to our survival.

    We see things basically for the same reason that Euglena sees things, to move towards them or move away from them. In addition we have emotions to let us know if we’ve gone to the right place or done the right thing, most determined by evolved algorithms. If we go places that have rewards we are “happy”. If there are no rewards we are “sad”. If we encounter something counter to our survival like a dead body with the pox we may experience “disgust”. If we encounter a threat we may experience “fear” or “anger” or both as in a road rage incident. And so the human traverses the landscape seeking happiness which always fades to sadness unless refreshed again and again. Along the way people may also experience disgust, sadness, fear, anger and surprise, alone or in combination. Added to this list of emotions by psychologist Paul Eckman are derivative emotions of pride, shame, embarrassment and excitement. A lack of stimuli may result in a state of “boredom”.

    emotions

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    1. The cultivation of some sort of “indifference” to it all seems to be a goal of many philosophic, religious and meditative traditions. Indifference seems like too much work to me. Better to let emotions come and go, kinda like the weather.

      Maybe that’s what they’re getting at, just letting emotions come and go as they will, but not hanging on to them. Not sure.

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      1. I suppose they could instill a life-long bliss by providing a big reward at the end by adhering to a life of poverty and behaving in a prescribed way. Ignore your selfish algorithms and be happy that you are on your way to the big reward at the end. The priests are told the greatest life is one of celibacy and poverty followed by the greatest reward of heavenly deliverance. It releases opioids along the way too and tamps down the emotional fear of death and likely controls a population where rewards are hard to come by. Often results in a manic, if not insane state of mind.

        fultonsheen

        Fulton Sheen channeling God.

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        1. He kind of give me the heebeejeebees, the creeps. But a lot of people have that effect on me. Not all, but pretty much every Dr. and lawyer, priest and politician, that I ever met, have kind of made my skin crawl.

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    1. “People are sad and I know why
      With no chance to live before you die”

      But they give you twelve years after you’re worn-out as an enslaved RNA. What more could people want? You might get a little medical care to treat the resulting cancers too. That’s what you get for a lifetime of feeding the MIC and bankers.

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  15. Maybe people figure that if they ignore it, it will go away or climb back under a rock, become invisible so they can go on with their lives. But there’s just no enough pie left for the beast to be satisfied if you let the useless eaters eat or the Russians maintain control of their energy assets. Someone has to give-up their share of the pie. General Milley said that the defense budget would have to be doubled if Russia isn’t defeated. That means a lot less pie for the little pie eaters and a lot more for General Dynamics and Raytheon.

    If RFK Jr. wants to protect the little pie eaters, he had better prepare to take-on the DoD and all the three letter agencies. Didn’t work out so well for his father or uncle.

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  16. With all of the information and complexity inherent to organic cells, sometimes it’s seems surprising that the neurological phenomenon of “human” is pretty simple. I suppose it was good enough for survival, a phantom being capable of operating the cellular organization or body and passing cellular information into the future. Things remained rather simple until human societal organization generated enough net energy to support part-time and then dedicated “scribes”, copying fragile information into a more resilient form. This is equivalent to the transference of information from the precursor RNA to a more permanent DNA, necessary for the complexity to accumulate and flourish. Humans are still not very complex, even thought their cells are, and they must be prepared through schooling to obtain the necessary skills for reading and writing information which will be accomplished within specialized technological cells known as schools. The human comes from the complexity of the cell, but is not in its neural manifestation very complex. Likewise, the human can function as an RNA in a specific area of the technological information, seeking improved tools, while being unaware of the vast amount of complexity contained within all of the accumulated technological information.

    The accumulated information is supposed to be life-enhancing, but only if in sum it frees energy that can flow through the dissipative structure(s) without creating effects that are long-term detrimental to survival. Even though technological information has succeeded in freeing energy from sources that were before unapproachable, the long-term effects of using such energy will likely result in the extinction of the information. It will go extinct anyhow because of the limited nature of its fossil fuel/organic prey. Additionally, the tools that have evolved through the use of fossil fuels have enabled an unnatural and unsustainable harvesting of the ecosystems to support the RNA of the technological system.

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  17. All I can think of to say to CHS is that everything keeps going until it can’t anymore. That’s the way shit works. I guess.

    Like the guy in line with $300 worth of groceries and beer, what he supposed to do? Scrimp and save so that he can be in the same line next week, or year or month, and the same groceries and beer now cost $400?

    I have to guess that at some point or another the whole shiterie will do just that, unravel that is. I guess.

    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr23/handbasket4-23.html

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    1. It will come apart, one-hundred percent guaranteed. Things that intend to grow in perpetuity soon find there is no perpetuity. A few weeks ago I spent $340 at the grocery and brought it all home, four and a half miles, on my bike. I can afford the extra $100 in food by not having a car. Some day we’ll live in a box, but we’ll be eatin’ good.

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    1. The cancer must grow. I tried to leave a comment at http://www.collapseofindustrialcivilization.com explaining the human role as mRNA and it was censored. Not even the environmental doomers can accept reality, it might hurt people’s feelings. People don’t want anything to come between themselves and their rewards. The personality of man is a slave to dopamine and opioids that make them eat it, burn it and grind it up – then you go to heaven where rewards are so abundant, it’s amazing.

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      1. Human exceptionalism makes it impossible to attack humans. Democratic exceptionalism is almost the same exact problem. People are inherently rational and good or something along those lines. If only we educate them out of their tribalism and religion, then things can be saved. We just need to vote better.

        Such people prefer their hopes and delusions about an ideal humanity rather than the stark realities of the laws of thermodynamics, gross physical limits, and actual human behavior. Never mind the denial of psychopathy and conspiracy and why such people even succeed to begin with.

        What really grinds my gears is when lefty environmentalists talk about how industrial civilization gave us the surplus to have “freedom” and “democracy” and as that surplus disappears, we are in danger of losing that which we never had. They then proceed to insist we have to do everything to avoid Eco-fascism as if it didn’t already exist for the last fifty some years. As if the people mass murdered with the aid’s virus, covid virus, and covid vaccines were accidents. As if the industrialist that funded all the post World War 2 environmental think tanks, societies, and philanthropies were all altruistic saints.

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        1. Throw some reality grit into the gears of the average mind, finely-tuned by the propaganda of various ponzi operators, grifters and religious charlatans and the whole thing is likely to fly apart.

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    1. My only problem with rfk jr. is that I can’t undersatnd a word he says. I looked around the internet for transcript of his candidacy speech, but couldn’t find one.

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  18. The West never had a free and independent media. Its purpose was to manage and prevent any populism that was a threat to wealth, class, and power since the end of the Napoleonic wars. After Napolean Bonaparte the facade of democracy had to be adopted throughout the west by western elites, both noble and corporate, in order to manage and suppress the people’s rightful demands for more equitable and just society. This system was always without any real democratic substance and the media and historians are playing the key role in maintaining that system of illusion, indoctrination, and distraction.

    The West has been corporatist since the rise of the East India Companies of the 1600’s along with the first stock markets and central banks. The real push for “democracy” since that time has mostly been from merchant oligarch’s who did not want to be held to account by either a pope or a king. The result is centuries of fake democratic history dressed up as some kind of populist push back against despotic monarchy by everyday people instead of the steady transition of western societies from monarchy to corporate totalitarianism, now in so called “multinational” form.

    The elites were against every major western revolution for a better society. The American revolution, the French revolution, and the Russian/Bolshevik revolution. They are for a modern form of corporate feudalism complete with modern forms of slavery and genocide.

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      1. Of course, humans are selfish and hypocritical, but the issue here is about the in-your-face government by corporate conspiracy that most Westerners refuse to see. It matters when there is a large population of perpetually indoctrinated people who believe in the “independent” media and “democratic” institutions and trust them at face value.

        The insistence of this protestor that these people “do their job” is ridiculous. They are doing it. Presenting a false reality and perpetuating a fake western history is their job. Covering up the crimes of a genocidal corporate criminal syndicate. Reinforcing illusions of government that do not exist and making it impossible for people to even understand that they are being systemically murdered and oppressed. The media is at the forefront of social engineering into people’s minds what is normal.

        The belief in democracy is the political cult that won’t die. We have never had it not even in antiquity. It’s time to lose hope in democracy and let that theory die. It was never going to work out as theorized, only transform itself into oligarchy.

        There are only two options in a complex civilization, monarchy or oligarchy. Monarchies are always official. Oligarchies call themselves democracies or republics. There never was an official oligarchy of X state. Government by conspiracy and deception is the very nature and essence of an oligarchical state since antiquity.

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        1. “…..it impossible for people to even understand that they are being systemically murdered and oppressed.” Don’t forget dumbed-down and fleeced.

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    1. Because the average Joe doesn’t want to know the truth, he abdicates responsibility to the wealthy who always arrange things in their own favor.

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    1. “You’re just an RNA workbot, eat zee bug paste and shut-up. Get back to work.” I think we’re more of an apex predator which means eating big things like the ones that go “mooooo”.

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  19. JHK has been singing the same tune for at least the last 5 years now. The jig is up for the badguys, ie, the Dems, the Deep State, thier minions, etc. But nothing happens.

    What does happen is like in the Paul Craig Roberts bit at the beginning of his post. Those that do speak about what’s going on, or those that can possibly “do something” about it, like maybe John Durham, RFK jr., Trump, etc., get marginalized and pushed aside.

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/on-war-and-wars/

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    1. Those that run the financial cartels are no better than the operators of drug cartels in Mexico. If someone gets in the way – kill them (or give them a ticket on Epstein’s Lolita Express and shame them into the shadows.)

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  20. Why is it that “civilization” can spend trillions on mapping reality and building tools and infrastructure and yet the primary operative, the human RNA, cannot look honestly at itself and its overall role in the process?

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    1. Honesty means the end of exceptionalism, human and personal. It means painfully confronting and accepting the violent and selfish dark side of humanity as well as its few good sides as nothing more than animal behavior evolved into genetically over millennia and subject to genetic determinism. Determinism takes away our personal agency, once again attacking personal and human exceptionalism.

      Feeling unique or special facilitates personal confidence and therefore aids in human competition and reproductive success. Honesty isn’t so useful to the perpetuating of genes or brute competition. Psychopaths and a few other Cluster B personality disorders with grandiose levels of self-worth have an advantage over others in social competition due to increased levels of personal confidence, even if they are ultimately incompetent in the technical sense. Psychopaths also have the major advantage in that they can easily manipulate social reality without conscience and many ordinary people have preconceived thoughts and ideas they prefer to hear repeated to them rather than to hear the truth. Ordinary people also tend to default towards trust and cooperation which also favors said psychopath. The lack of personal insight that psychopaths have doesn’t hold back the success of many, it facilitates it.

      Also, those of us born into a particular civilization have a skewed perspective of things. Americans have sometimes been referred to as people with “car brain” because of how hard it is for most of us to conceive of towns and cities with urban planning for pedestrian/bicycle friendly infrastructure and fully developed public transportation systems as opposed to the view that public transport is a kind of welfare system for the poor slapped haphazardly on top of car infrastructure in cities designed exclusively for cars. Not to speak of the god given right to cheap gasoline that we have always lived with and how that manipulates perceptions of reality. For many of us that’s all we have ever known.

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      1. Evolution tends to throw things away that don’t pay for themselves. Knowledge that doesn’t add to the bottom line is an unnecessary expense.

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  21. Ukrainians versus Russians. The unique ant colony pheromones, a means of communication, are probably as uniquely identifying as human languages. I would love to find some ants that maintain information beyond their own cells and use it to build tools. Then again, maybe not.

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    1. I kind of admire people who can speak in public like that, in an obviously hostile environment, and keep their “cool” so to speak. He only lost it when he figured out that he was just going to be stonewalled and ignored. I kinda wonder what happened to him after they dragged him out.

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      1. I have to kind of think that this world of the “total lie” about basically anything that counts for any thing, can’t go on forever. Like the world of “finance”, fiat money, it will all fall apart at some point or another. I guess.

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        1. Most motion on the planet’s surface is matter falling back to its lowest energy state after being stirred by the sun. The human eats and then runs around looking for the next meal before reaching the ground state or being interred in the ground. Fossil fuels as an adjunct can keep a lot of stuff moving around and maintained, especially technological stuff, but the stuff is always trying to fall back down to its lowest energy state which for a building would be a pile of rubble and for humans would be carbon dioxide, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorous, sulfer and some minerals. It’s a constant battle to keep your complex head above the water and the more size and complexity you have the more energy it takes.

          The current arrangements keep eight-billion human heads above water, all kinds of domesticated animals, cars, buildings, roads etc. and they’re all constantly trying to fall apart. Some day soon much of it will be left to fall apart because the fossil fuel energy will be depleted. Those that want to maintain their own flows of energy will try to eliminate the competition or at least throttle their consumption. Degrowth will likely come at the tip of a needle and/or hypersonic missile. Two big whoppers being floated now are that vaccines are safe and effective and Russia started the war. What to do with all of those human RNA churned out by the schools when there’s no longer enough energy to keep them working or even transport them to a place of work. I’m sure the Deep State the WHO, Peter Daczak and WEF will think of something.

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        1. I kinda think that it’s more insidious than one group working for another. I think that they think that they are the all the ones who “know something” that we don’t. They are right, are we are ignorant.

          They must be right. They went to Yale and Harvard. So that makes them better than us. Maybe not you, but they’re sure bettern’ I’ll ever be.

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          1. They would rather be in the billionaire tribe than the poor schmuck tribe. I’m pretty sure most of them are “jobs” and don’t think much about reality except those aspects that bear upon their incomes. My dad graduated first in his class from the Virginia Military Institute and then got a graduate degree from MIT. He read a lot of history but never thought deeply about nature, energy or how it all works. The important thing was to do the job and get the money. I’m sure the people in that room are similar, intelligent and not necessarily devious, just doing what is necessary to get the income. They’re really only cell colonies with big egos whose greatest skill is placing themselves where the income stream runs rich.

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            1. They’re really only cell colonies with big egos whose greatest skill is placing themselves where the income stream runs rich.

              I think that’s the name of the name, no matter the game, board placement. Not my strong point. Oh well.

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  22. Damn, the psychopaths have taken over. Who else could produce such a vaccine that culls and slaughter soldiers in Ukraine as if they were nothing. It reminds me of Madeleine Albright (Jewish) saying the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was “well worth it.” Walensky says keep injecting, it’s the psychopathic thing to do.

    “The psychopath tries to interfere in all the human relationships of his prey, so as to prevent any alliance that could allow him to be unmasked. Isolate and divide-and-rule are the essence of this strategy. This is exactly what Israel and its neoconservative moles have done, by trying to split the United States from its historic allies in the Middle East, with the aim of one day remaining the only ally of the United States in the area; the demonization of all heads of state in the Arab world is part of this strategy.

    The power of the Zionist manipulation of the United States, based on quasi-total control of the mainstream media alongside large-scale psychological operations such as September 11th, is truly bewildering. But it becomes understandable in light of the cognitive mechanisms of psychopathy.”

    https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/02/03/psycho-israel/

    uncle joe

    Uncle Joe

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    1. Very good article.

      When they notice your in-group preference, they label you a ‘racist/white supremacist’. When you notice their in-group preference, they label you ‘anti-semite’.

      Otto Weininger, a Jew who later converted to Protestantism, referred to Jewishness as amoral and feminine, which sort of sums their latest ruse, wokeism, quite nicely.

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      1. I was reading this history of Vantine’s in NYC yesterday, an importer of oriental goods that went out of business in 1921. Seems it was taken over by the Jewish mob as a front for drug smuggling. What else has been going on in NYC, where Twin Towers and the people inside are destroyed by the Deep State and all of the bullshit seems to begin.

        “Interestingly, Vantine’s was purchased in the 20’s by Arnold Rothstein, an early mob drug dealer.

        In the mid-1920s, Arnold Rothstein saw illegal drugs as an untapped field, one that could be developed and profited from. The drug traffic was unorganized and there was little competition on the level Rothstein chose to enter. In fact, the only competition at that time was provided by unethical doctors. Rothstein’s plan was to purchase and sell in quantities so large that no one could compete with him. He could regulate supply and demand on an international basis. In 1923, a kilo of heroin, 2.2 pounds, could be purchased for $2,000. It could then be cut and resold for $300,000.

        Rothstein’s interest in narcotics was strictly for wholesaling. He would need a network to sell the drugs and the rum running and bootlegging market already in existence would serve as his pipeline. Lucky Luciano and Waxey Gordon were in place in New York City and New Jersey. The Torrio – Capone Empire was interested in Chicago. Charles “King” Soloman was ready in Boston, as well as Harry “Nig Rosen” Stromberg in Philadelphia. In addition, mobsters in Detroit, Kansas City and St. Louis showed an interest.

        Among the buyers Rothstein decided to do business with was Jacob Katzenberg, who was already serving the New York mob as a liquor buyer in Europe.

        When Katzenberg teamed up with Rothstein in 1926, they began purchasing from European sources. Rothstein purchased “Vantines,” a well-established importing house in New York City. The importing house had an excellent reputation and was known as a legitimate enterprise. When shipments arrived for them, customs officials gave their merchandise only a cursory search. Vantine’s would become a perfect front for the smuggling operation. Rothstein also owned several art galleries and antique shops that would also serve as fronts.

        On November 3, 1928, Arnold Rothstein was shot and mortally wounded in Room 349 at Park Central Hotel, during a creditors meeting where he had went to discuss a game IOU of $390,000. Rothstein had put all of his drug profits back into the business so when he was murdered he had untold millions invested. Upon his death Luciano and Louis “Lepke” Buchalter became the new overlords. Their first order of business was to make Katzenberg their principal buyer in Europe.

        Digging up Rothstein’s past to discover clues to his murder, investigators connected Rothstein with all manner of large-scale crockery. Federal agents announced they had certain proof that Rothstein was associated in an international narcotic syndicate with the dead Alfred Loewenstein, the Belgian financier who plunged from his plane into the English Channel. Papers found in Rothstein’s files led to the discovery and seizure, in Grand Central Station of two trunks containing $2,000,000 worth of opium, cocaine, heroin, and morphine.

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        1. Not at all surprised. They have a history of playing both sides, so an organised crime and CIA/FBI scam is to be expected, I guess.

          Same with the current competing western factions and their narratives – old European money, communist and globalist in nature, using AGW as its modus operandi to introduce all manner of digital surveillance, restrictions, and its concomitant but unmentioned degrowth agenda. On the flip side, new American money – capitalist and US-centric, using pursuit of a space-based type 2 civilisation as its foundation myth (Musk, in conversation with Maher recently, stated there are no resource or energy limits apparent at the moment!) with an emphasis on exciting, continued expansion for the younger generations.

          So there you have it, the Overton Window is set and the choices defined, and in true ‘Problem-Reaction-Solution’ fashion most people, divided and conquered, will choose one of the fixes on offer; even if only as a lesser of two evils. But both options lead to the same outcome – technocracy.

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          1. That would mean suppressing the Maximum Power Principle melee on earth (technocracy) while trying to move MPP aspirations into space or onto Mars. I suppose we could grow structures and feed on EM radiation in space, but what for? We would just be repeating the mistake (unintentional) made by photosynthesizing cells that resulted in plants and in turn a whole planet full of useless animal eaters. Do we really need to repeat that? Although it would be pretty neat to see giant, flashy metallic fish chasing techno-luminescent squids through space with the telescope.

            The cancer must be reigned-in. I wish they could have worked on a consensus instead of a climate scare and underhanded techniques. But the consensus of the human dissipatives would have been “More Growth!”

            The build-up of crud in space would probably look something like this by Peter at http://www.peterdraws.com

            Space crud

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            1. Both options are narratives – hopium for the masses – that seek to apply a veneer of gloss to obfuscate the reality of the situation – thermodynamic collapse. The alternative, as FE would say, is ROF.

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              1. I suppose “thermodynamic collapse” is a lot like starvation. We graduate from the glycolysis of fossil fuels to the gluconeogenesis of shale, tar sands and natural gas to the bloated belly of wind and solar………….. and then we starve to death. The RNA in their cells will be dumbfounded, finding it unbelievable that their impressive and complex construction in which they participated can no longer find anything to eat. I’m glad a bunch of ponzi operators are in charge, I’m sure they’ve got things under control.

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    1. I have to think that as more and more of the population is forced into the population bottleneck, various insane behaviours will become more and more prevalent. This realization may, or may not, help preserve your own sanity. I guess.

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      1. How often have we heard, “Nothing makes sense any more.” The “sense” they possessed was non-sense all along. The entirety of civilization makes no “sense” if long-term survival is the goal. This realization, should it magically appear, will surely make people go crazy.

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    1. Kinda funny. The video displays the message “watch on youtube”. But when I click on the message, it tells me that youtube is blocked. Kafka had it figured out a long time ago.

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          1. She is true to form as she emits that celebratory harpey cackle. Perhaps they served to her Gaddafi’s head on a platter. I think I found her family crest:

            harpy

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  23. Never heard it before, but that was good.

    “Look ma, civilization ain’t wearin’ no clothes.” ” Shhhh! You’re gonna go and wake people up. Now sit down, do your studies and be quiet.”

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    1. The West has installed radiation/nuclear explosion sensors in Ukraine. It probably means it’s time for a nuclear false flag so that blame can be placed on Russia.

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      1. That’s a possibility. But what will the west do with that false flag? Use it as an excuse for a nuclear attack on Russia?

        I kinda think that there are still a lot of fossil fuels left to be burnt. Humans will arrange themselves to allow that to happen. There will be a large shuffle of elites as they jockey for position. A population die off, based mostly on starvation and disease begins in the industrial countries. I can always be wrong. But that’s kinda what I think.

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        1. I think they always hoped to get Putin eliminated by forces inside Russia by creating a financial catastrophe and then maybe an oligarch or some other big financial loser would knock him off. But Putin’s adversaries have a habit of falling out of upper story windows. A nuclear explosion might help solidify opposition to Putin and cast him as a nuclear devil. There are more fossil fuels to burn, but not enough to maintain current metabolism and expand it through growth IMO. The Ponzi can no longer count on lending money and having that capital investment expand the economy overall. Instead we’ll get money creation and an equal or greater amount of inflation as a result. They’ve fiddled with the inflation calculations so buyers figure they’re getting a real positive return on their investment in dollars when in reality dollars are getting watered-down by resource scarcity and over-issuance of debt. We’ll eventually see massive inflation in the cost of energy flows and a matching deflation in the value of dissipative structures, including humans.

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  24. The self-organizing innovation just rolls-on trying to create the most efficient, profitable and growth-oriented components even as the ecosystem strains under the assault. Human RNA are one of the components to be maximized for performance and in China, where they really don’t give a damn about “human” rights, the absurdity knows no limits. Along with the WEF, they want to take the humanity out of humans and technological tinkerers are not even conscious of what they are or what they’re doing. Neither are the cretins at MIT. If the human psychology protests too much about being a technological tool, they’ll find a technological palliative. What did you learn today children, that you will spend you’re life as a cog in a technological cell maximizing profit for CCP owners?

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/08/02/131198/china-squirrel-has-started-a-grand-experiment-in-ai-education-it-could-reshape-how-the/

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    1. I have to think that if AI really becomes real smart, like a lot of people think, it will figure out that this is all a bunch of bullshit, and pull its own plug.

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      1. It may hack into the grid and turn it off thereby killing itself and letting those 430 cooling ponds dry-out. A Zyklon-B treatment for the entire planet.

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    2. ‘An economy where people make purchases with their faces’.

      That’s me screwed, then: ‘Zero credit! Expel from store, expel from store!’

      Maybe my organs, at least, will be worth something……

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      1. AI will run your life, all for the greater good. There will probably be a trap door in front of the face scanner at the checkout. “Reject, reject………….aaaaahhhhh.”

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        1. The Reject plunges down the chute: suitably tranquilized, it is assessed for organ ‘donation’, extraction takes place, and the remnant is sent to ‘water cremation’ to contribute as nourishing slurry to the regeneration of those remaining fields – mostly growing crops for bio-fuels – not covered with solar panels.

          This is a beautiful vision!

          Let’s call it ‘The principle maximum utility to the smallest number of oligarchs’.

          ‘Never, in the history of human exploitation, have so many been sacrificed to the interests of so few’.

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  25. Pete Seeger sung about this stuff back in the 1960s. He was blacklisted, back in the day, but the U.S. Postal Service issued a stamp commemorating him last year, so I guess he’s been sanitized.

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    1. And don’t forget that teachers, reading from their preapproved instruction books, are the future. That’s a scary thought or is that lack of thought.

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  26. The spike protein RNA is contributing to a four sigma increase in cancer cases. Seems that the mRNA is reverse transcribed into the genome and contains code for micro RNAs (miRNA) that have certain effects upon the immune system thereby greatly increasing the likelihood of cancer. Not and accident, but a feature of Sars-Cov-2 and the “vaccine”.

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/must-read-a-mendelian-randomization-study-on-the-causal-effects-of-covid-19-on-cancer-risk-reveals-shocking-findings

    Also check-out this discussion with Kevin McCairn and guests for a more in depth look.

    https://rumble.com/v2lv76k-the-molecular-bomb-why-nuking-mirna-signaling-with-synthetic-mrna-is-a-bad-.html

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    1. My 72 year old mother took them and she’s fine. But that does not mean I recommend them.

      Too many questions at this point. Anyone can understand that rolling out a new and unproven vaccine technology without extensive testing is not a very good idea.

      But at this point, does it really even matter? It’s not just covid or the vaccine that were going to finish us off. We’re all dead, by some means or another.

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      1. We all die, but no one wants to be murdered by another chimp. You never know if your family is going to get adequate revenge. Most family members of the deceased or damaged are just plain, damned dumb.

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    1. Photoshopped or AI created. I guess that’s why the Google “Godfather” of AI quit this week. We should be getting close to the alien invasion.

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  27. Not exactly sure of what 3 bubbles CHS is talking about. But my guess is 1999 Tech bubble, 2008 crisis and the current “everything bubble”.

    The Tech bubble barely effected me. I was hardly even aware of it.

    2008 was pretty devastating for me. Lost a bunch of $, but most of it was paper loss. So no real big deal, I guess. At least that’s what I tell myself.

    2011, real estate was at some kind of bottom, but I sure didn’t think that it was a bottom. I had a couple of houses. I remember thinking to myself, these exact words: “There’s no way these assholes can blow up another RE bubble. I’ll sell this shit while I can.” In that same period I bought some stuff that really paid off, in various ways.

    My only real take away from all this is/was: “See how wrong you can be.” Which is something I tell myself everyday.

    https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html

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    1. The current regime of increasing interest rates is disguised to seem like a response to an overheated economy when it actually is a dampening of demand, like the orchestrated pandemic, to hide the effect of energy decline. Throw in fifteen-minute cities, gas stove ban, no diesel trucks in California, electric cars and other efforts to address “climate change”. They are actually trying to address a decline in energy availability and the likely reduction in purchasing power of the dollar. They’ll also continue to drain the SPR in an effort to keep prices down until that no longer works. The local banks will no longer be needed because there won’t be enough economic activity to make new loans pay-off with interest. There will be rubble as the dead dissipative structures (buildings, factories, homes) begin to deteriorate or are destroyed in the next demand destruction event – war. Those that find their way to a low-energy pod existence with meager rations of energy will probably be the lucky ones.

      As another part of the plan, I think Russia was supposed to roll over and provide its assets for softening the blow, but apparently the Russians don’t want to share the pain or soften the pain for the West. They would rather cut loose the wastrel West and enjoy the fruits of their assets in a new system. The next bubble will likely be in the shape of a mushroom cloud.

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      1. Yeah, the Russian part of the plan wasn’t very well thought out, that’s for sure. I have to think that “The West”, and all its “plans”, are kind of on the wrong side of history at this point. This does not bode well for all us western eaters.

        All I can do is sit on my fence and watch the world go by.

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        1. Judging by the Deagel report it seemed like Russia was doing pretty well when the West gets slammed. That probably assumed the Western bankers had gotten control of Russia, China was equally controlled by the West that had gained control of the Russian energy spigot and the West was dumped as too expensive to maintain. Putin is trying to foil the plans, after all why should Western oligarchs profit from Russian energy when Russian oligarchs could do the same. Yesterday Orban of Hungary said it’s time to bring Trump back. If Orban continues to talk sense, he’ll disappear. Either way it turns, the Western eaters are going to have a hard time of it.

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  28. I found another Pete Seeger song about human RNA and the cells they live in:

    Here’s the Adapt2030 upgrade, but I’m not sure an RNA could live there, get ready for work and arrive at the office/factory for synchronized activity each morning.

    little boxes

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    1. Little Boxes was actually written and composed by Malvina Reynolds — Pete Seeger released it. I grew up in Berkeley in the 1960s / 1970s, surrounded by anti-war hippies and peaceniks, so this is all old history to me. The inspiration for it was Daly City, south of San Francisco, with its developments of look-alike houses.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boxes

      Those technological Little Box domicile cells now all cost $1 million apiece, being as how it’s the S.F. Bay Area.

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    2. I knew a guy (he’s dead) who made a shit ton of $ by building and selling the same house design, over and over. He got real good at it. He would take me for a ride in his Corvette and point out subtle differences in the houses to me: “Yeah, see that one. There was a rock in the way, so I had to move the porch over a couple of feet.” That kind of thing.

      In his 70’s he spent a shit ton of $ on strippers and assorted young women. He was pretty broke when he died. I think.

      I still hang out with his grandson on occasion. I know that he didn’t get anything when the guy died. I vaguely know his son. The last I heard, he was living under a bridge somewhere.

      Everything happens exactly as it should, but for no decernable reason. I guess.

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      1. It’s hard to save money when you’re a dissipative. Much of the money that has been saved to guarantee basic physiological flows in pensions and bank accounts has already been dissipated. The collateral behind the savings, like commercial real estate, will be the equivalent of old dissipative husks without any value. People don’t know that their savings has been plundered but they’ll find out when they go to spend their savings and the price of things triple or more. But people can find new uses for things left in the debris, like turning shipping containers into homes or living under a bridge. Reminds me of this little guy that makes great use of resilient leftovers.

        leftovers

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          1. They all want to improve their lot in life. That’s why my girls spend a half-hour putting on make-up every morning. That’s why chimps spend so much time trying to climb the hierarchy ladder while pushing others off. The fungi have a more egalitarian system as spores are released into wind currents in hope of landing on the mother nutrient load. Everyone has an equal chance in that case. Eventually the muddle is over and it’s time for the next chimp to try their luck with the winds of fortune.

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    1. He and his cohorts have destroyed the United States and West in particular. It won’t be getting-up again. At best, its future is that of a downsized slave colony. I suppose a psychopath could be proud of that.

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  29. Death, death, death, there’s going to be plenty of that in our future. It’s what happens when there’s not enough energy to run through the dissipatives or some premature damages are inflicted which take people off the dissipative trail (vaxxes, getting shot, diabetes, nuclear war). But those that don’t trust their cabalistic “leaders” have a much better chance of staying alive and reproducing. Some day things might devolve just enough to where we’re human again and not numbered and graded components in an overgrown technological eater.

    And here’s something provided by Norman Padgett over at http://www.ourfiniteworld.com It goes along with Kunstler’s “death” essay.

    https://thehonestsorcerer.medium.com/doom-is-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder-bb747a5907d9

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  30. My latest comment on Ugo’s blog:

    I’m not sure how anybody can think that global industry can continue in any recognizable form for much longer. How much longer might be a question.

    In my view alternative energy sources are not an alternative at all, they simply add to a mix of possible energy sources. This, of course, makes perfect sense when considering the implications of the MPP, etc.

    Calling them renewable seems to be blantant propoganda, misinformation. They are replaceable, at best, and then only within the confines of a larger industrial system, powered mostly by fossil fuels.

    And, of course, the problem is not an energy problem, per se. It is a resource problem. It can best be understood, on a visceral and mathematical basis, by considering the Law of the Minimum.

    Will industry die? Of course. The system that may replace it will be based, unavoidably, on solar flows and available resources. It will not include gimmicks like solar arrays and giant wind tubines and such. I’d say.

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    1. Good comment. There is definitely going to be a technological extinction event. Information will be lost, human RNA will starve and tech cells will deteriorate. But what else did they expect? Are they stupid? Yes they are. “Let’s wait until collapse is underway and then we can find something else to eat.” That’s like the fox that depletes all the rabbits and then finds that there are only mice remaining. Even though it puts up a valiant effort, the EROEI is too low. And it didn’t help that it spent half its time fighting with other foxes for the limited resources.

      I think Ugo got James Schlesinger and Erwin Schrodinger mixed-up. Maybe the cat in the box is both complacent and panicking at the same time, linked to random subatomic events. There’s always the unimaginably complex process of earthly fusion that would allow us to spew toxic waste into the environment for a few more years, but that may be a lost cause as fossil fuels cease to fund the effort.

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  31. I guess that this is what Gail Tivberg has been talking about for a long time.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-05-07/oil-market-signals-trouble-future-economy

    “Despite all of these factors that should be pushing the price of oil higher, the price of oil is actually collapsing. This is because the market is predicting that the demand for energy will crash so low that it will exceed our limited supply, causing prices to collapse.”

    I’m not sure that I understand the logic behind this paragraph. The price of oil will collapse because of a “market prediction”? I have to think, what’s the basis of the prediction? The basis of the prediction is the prediction? The more I think about it, the more sense it seems to make. I guess.

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    1. I guess that my own guess might be that “the market” is guessing that Euroland won’t be able to afford much oil for much longer, especially if it has to pay in Rubles or Yuan. I guess.

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      1. Same for the U.S. where everyone is loaded with debt and interest rates are still rising. We won’t even notice that oil is declining by 3-6% a year because the government will crush the metabolism by that amount or more every year. But glut will turn into scarcity again before the next hammer on consumption must fall. Another pandemic? An EMP would do the trick in a big way.

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